Revised Supplemental Alternatives Analysis (SAA) Reports Released April, 2016

The following Supplemental Alternative Analysis Reports have been released by CHSRA that affect our area:

Please read Ralph Vartabedian’s article from April 8, 2016 LA Times “State releases new details on possible bullet train routes” which will help you understand the magnitude of the impact to the greater Los Angeles area.

Major High Speed Rail Route Changes in Palmdale to Burbank Project Section

Late evening of March 15, 2016, S.A.F.E. learned about the deletion of the proposed route E3 and the changes to routes SR14, E1, and E2. In a letter from Chair, Dan Richard of CHSRA:

Specifically, we have refined the alignment alternatives in order to, among other reasons:

  • Reduce and largely avoid environmental justice impacts in the highly-populated communities of Santa Clarita, Sylmar, San Femando and Pacoima.
  • Reduce impacts in the Santa Clarita area.
  • Improve future high-speed rail operations on all the alignments under study by making them less circuitous, thus allowing for more efficient, quicker service.
  • Improve the constructability of a1l the alignments

CHSRA-email-3-2016-thumbClick for explanatory email sent to the public by CHSRA

04/10/16 – NBC LA “News Conference” Conan Nolan interviews CHSRA Chairman Dan Richard about the revised routes of High Speed Rail.

03/17/16 – Los Angeles Times, “State revises proposed bullet train routes, but San Fernando Valley communities remain skeptical” By Ralph Vartabedian

03/17/16 – NBC Los Angeles, “SoCal High Speed Rail Route Change Has Neighbors Upset” Reported by Conan Nolan and Dennis Lahti

03/17/16 – Los Angeles Daily News, “Valley residents give proposed new bullet train routes mixed reviews” By Dana Bartholomew

03-16-16 – LA Daily News, "Bullet train to potentially change course into Southern California" By Dana Bartholomew

Taking the newly released CHSRA refined route map (March 2016) and overlaying it onto a Street Map (CLICK TO VIEW), you will better be able to see streets in more detail, not perfectly accurate, but you can magnify it more. However, please be aware that just because a route shows pink/purple and says underground, that does NOT mean it is necessarily a fully bored tunnel (this was confirmed with a CHSRA representative.) It could also mean it is cut-and-cover, eventually that part will be all underground, but they need to come in from above and that means eminent domain to those affected properties. Note the part along San Fernando Rd: that “underground section” will no doubt will be cut-and-cover.

"I am deeply disappointed in the HSR Authority’s decision to move forward with these routes through the Angeles National Forest. California needs high-speed rail — but it needs to be done in the right way, with proper thought given to how a particular route will affect communities, open space and environmental justice concerns. If a route through our communities cannot adequately address all of these important considerations, the HSR Authority may need to go back to the drawing board."
Congressman Adam Schiff

Community Advisory for High Speed Rail Letters

The community was advised late last week that California High Speed Rail was about to send out a new round of letters to the community asking for permission from land owners to enter their property to conduct tests for the proposed new CAHSR alternative routes. This letter could be headed in your direction depending on where you live.

The previous proposed routes have been changed so it is imperative that you pay attention. If you previously thought this was going to avoid your property, you need to look at the new map (Click to view (or download) full PDF map). These new proposed routes should be further detailed by the middle of next week.

The Permission to Enter (PTE) letters seek your permission to enter your property. Your are NOT required to grant that permission or you can limit the terms of that entry. This is all up to you individually. Please note that SAFE and other organizations are actively monitoring the actions of CAHSR. We have very serious concerns about and will oppose any above ground routes including any routes over the Big Tujunga Wash.

As part of keeping track of what is going on, would each of you who receive a PTE letter please send us a copy at This will help us confirm the routes. Also, please let us know if you have granted permission.

Thank you,

Come Meet the Candidates for the 25th Senate District & the 5th Supervisorial District


Come meet the candidates for the 25th Senate District and the 5th Supervisorial District. Will be a mixer format and then formal Q&A (including questions from the audience) section to follow. Refreshments will be served.

Wednesday, June 1 at 6 PM – 9 PM
Tierra del Sol Foundation
9919 Sunland Blvd, Sun Valley, California 91040



39th District Assembly Candidate Forum
Sponsored by Shadow Hills Property Owners Association

California Water4All Petition & Petition Locations

At the Feb. 23rd S.A.F.E. meeting, the attendees were introduced to the “Water Priorities Constitutional Amendment & Bond Act.” (Go to their website to learn the details or Read the PDF highlights.)

To sign the petition to get it on the November 2016 ballot, the following locations are hosting petition drives:

  • Mobile Gas Station: 8360 Sunland Blvd, Sun Valley, CA 91352
  • Gibson Ranch: 9655 Wentworth St, Sunland-Tujunga, CA 91040
  • East Valley Feed & Tack: 11084 Sheldon St, Sun Valley, CA 91352
  • Mustang Cleaners: 11355 Foothill Blvd, Sylmar, CA 91342
  • Valencia Saddlery: 11355-C Foothill Blvd, Sylmar, CA 91342
  • Rise ‘n Shine: 9685 Sunland Blvd, Sunland-Tujunga, CA 91040
  • Bell Cottage: 3816 W Magnolia Blvd, Burbank, CA 91505 (2-3 blks e/o Porto’s on Magnolia s/s of street)

Do you have petitions that are completed? EMAIL US BY USING THE FORM ON THIS PAGE (SUBJECT:PETITIONS) and we will arrange to get them from you and send them in! Of course, you can always send them in yourself. Send to (must arrive by April 20):
California Water Alliance
PO Box 1267
Hanford, CA 93232
Make certain you, as a petition circulator, sign the bottom of each form. The petitions can be folded to put into the envelope. Please make sure you have the correct postage.

A Walk through E2 During a Downpour!

David DePinto narrates a walk by Haines Canyon Creek during a rainstorm on Jan. 6, 2016. This is where California High Speed Rail Authority has proposed one of the routes (E2) to be located.

Click to view additional video and photos

SAFE & Mineta’s Equine Issues Report

The following is a letter sent to Mineta Transportation Institute regarding the recently released report they issued to CHSRA on “High-Speed Rail and Equine Issues.” S.A.F.E. has many problems with their findings. Please read both their report and S.A.F.E.’s letter in response that has also been sent to our elected officials. The following is the cover letter to the Executive Director of Mineta Transportation Institute:

Dear Ms. Philbrick:
Attached is a letter to you in your capacity of Executive Director of the Mineta Transportation Institute (MTI) from the S.A.F.E. Coalition. The letter relates to MTI’s work on the high speed train studies for the California High Speed Rail Authority. We represent the impacted and damaged communities throughout CHSRA’s “Burbank to Palmdale Project Section.”

The document outlines our Coalition’s issues with CHSRA in its selection of MTI for the aforementioned work, calls for MTI to withdraw immediately the Equine Study, calls for MTI to withdraw immediately from further work on a tunneling study, calls for MTI to recommend to CHSRA the need for independent, third-party field studies of the impact of high speed trains on equines/equestrian areas, and provides extensive comments on the inadequacies of the Equine Study.

Further, this letter is to inform you that we have filed a complaint with the State Auditor, under the California Whistleblower Protection Act, asking for their review of the implications of the California High Speed Rail Authority having engaged MTI in these studies.

Thank you.

Dave DePinto
President, Shadow Hills Property Owners Assn.
Member, S.A.F.E Coalition

Mineta’s “HSR and Equine Issues Report”

S.A.F.E.’s Letter to Mineta that was copied to our elected officials

Read the Los Angeles Times article by Ralph Vartabedian “Horse owners in the San Fernando Valley feel trod on by bullet train” This article also mentions the Mineta Report



S.A.F.E. is focusing on the short-term objective of getting E2, with its horrendous above ground features, removed from further consideration. Make no mistake, we remain very concerned and vigilant about ALL ROUTES through the Forest but E2 is the worst for people, open space, businesses and sensitive environmental areas – it is BOTH in the Forest AND above ground across our treasured Big Tujunga Wash!

READ the latest post regarding E2 with maps of how the Tujunga Wash will be affected!

READ the letter from SAFE to CA HSR involved agencies regarding E2


We have taken the official CHSRA map and overlaid it onto a street map so you can see a bit better where the routes go. It is not perfectly accurate due to offsets between the two maps, but close enough to see within a block where the proposed routes go.

CHSRA Route Map overplayed onto Street Map – March 2016

The High Speed Tunnel Portal Facilities that are required through the San Gabriel National Monument and the Angeles National Forest!

For an eye opening understanding of the infrastructure necessary to support the tunnel through the forest, please read: TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM – High-Speed Train Tunnel Portal Facilities TM 2.4.6.
Keep in mind, one acre is approximately the size of a football field without the end zones! There is above ground impact to the forest other than just the tunneling!

Must See! – “Build It Bigger: Mega Tunnel”

See what the Tunnel Boring Machine is all about.
45 minute video of just what will be happening if those tunnels are approved in our neighborhoods.

Click to Download the Palmdale to Burbank SAA Report – Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Report released for the 6/9/15 CHSRA Board Meeting

We Still Need Everyone’s Help!

We are still taking donations for our educational-instructional fund and our legal fund. If you don’t have the time to volunteer, please consider making a monetary donation to this important fight. (Click Here to Donate!)

Thank you!
S.A.F.E. (Save Angeles Forest for Everyone)
Sunland-Tujunga NC
Lake View Terrace NC
Kagel Canyon Civic Association
Shadow Hills Property Owners Association

The Latest about CA High Speed Rail

Check out our UPDATE PAGE on the latest from S.A.F.E. and the CA High Speed Rail Authority.

Spread the Word about S.A.F.E.
& High Speed Rail!

We need help getting the word out about what the HSR will do to our communities. Please download our one page flyer and distribute to your friends, neighbors and community bulletin boards. Thanks!

Download S.A.F.E. Flyer!



Our lawn sign program kicked off on Sept. 19th at the Equine Health Fair at Orcas Park in Lake View Terrace. Donations were received for several dozen signs and they were on display at numerous booths including that of Assemblymember Patty Lopez.

You need a lawn sign and you can get one simply by making a $10 donation. To order, just click on the PayPal button below! After we receive your order, we will contact you to arrange delivery. We will also have them available at community meetings in upcoming weeks. Soon, banners will carry the same message. Everyone: this Fall will be a busy and important time to communicate with our elected officials, the media and the California High Speed Rail Authority. These lawn signs are an important backdrop to help people be aware and engaged.

Let’s stay united and display these signs with pride and determination throughout all Foothills and San Fernando Valley communities. Thank you!

Order Your Lawn Sign NOW!

High Speed Rail Update – Appreciation for Volunteers and “Activist” Residents

The date of the California High Speed Rail Authority Board Meeting, June 9th , was a special day for our Foothills Communities in our fight against high speed rail. Thank you to everyone who helped plan the day, made the trip, testified, were with us in spirit, donated to help defray various costs, have written letters and watched on various websites.

The turnout from the Foothills area and other affected communities far exceeded our expectations given the meeting was held in downtown Los Angeles on a work day. Most of us left this area at 7:30 for a meeting that lasted until 4:30 and did not get home until after 6 pm. Over 400 people attended and more than 150 people testified, including at least 50 people from our Foothill communities alone. The meeting room overflowed the entire day. The poise, intelligence, community-spirit, compassion and brilliance displayed by our residents and others throughout the region, demonstrated that unity is the best and only strategy against this “big government” boondoggle and the “transportation zombies” trying to impose their view of the world on our communities. READ THE ENTIRE POST HERE

What Progress Has Been Made Fighting High Speed Rail?

Please read our detailed report about what S.A.F.E. has accomplished to date, and why this battle is so important for all of us. READ THE ENTIRE POST HERE


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S.A.F.E. – Save Angeles Forest for Everyone

S.A.F.E. was organized to stop the California High Speed Rail Authority from building train routes within the Palmdale to Burbank project section that damaged our local communities, the San Gabriel Mountains National Monument and the Angeles National Forest. The so-called “East Corridor” includes routes that would travel approximately 35 miles over, under and through our communities and open space. Locally impacted communities include: Kagel Canyon, Lake View Terrace, Sunland-Tujunga, Shadow Hills, La Tuna Canyon and Sun Valley. Potential impacts, from both operational and construction phases, include damage to our community character, water resources, visual and aesthetics, noise and vibration, truck traffic and air quality, human and animal health, equestrian culture and industry and economy. We are working in unity with neighboring communities similarly impacted by high speed rail proposals including Pacoima, San Fernando, Santa Clarita, Acton and Agua Dulce.

Don’t Railroad Our Communities! Read all the facts and history of this project and get involved!


It is very apparent that HSR has the “cart ahead of the horse” at this juncture in this region…pun intended…from both an engineering/design and communications standpoint, and is struggling to develop the right strategy to build and communicate within densely populated communities. It was shocking to us that HSR, with its vast array of financial, engineering, technical and political/communications resources, could propose the flawed Corridors E1, E2 and E3.

For starters, each of the East Corridor alternatives violates the premise and spirit of the San Gabriel Mountains National Monument and Angeles National Forest, and we challenge whether the routes legally adhere to the definition of “existing transportation and utility corridors” as required by the enabling legislation and Proposition 1A, as approved narrowly by California voters. The East Corridor alternatives tunnel directly under the heart of the residential, equestrian communities of Shadow Hills, La Tuna Canyon, Lake View Terrace, Kagel Canyon, Sun Valley and Burbank. These alternatives create damage of varying degrees to nearby Sunland/Tujunga, Pacoima and San Fernando, affecting equestrians and recreation enthusiasts from throughout LA County who use the Northeast San Fernando Valley for their equestrian and varied recreation pursuits.

The overall reputation, quality of life and historic equestrian culture of our Foothill communities would be decimated by the construction of multiple, gaping tunnel openings and an elevated rail line over our flood plain, equestrian trail network and recreation/open space areas. In addition, the local equestrian-related economy (which exceeds $100 million in value annually, not including equestrian real estate nor indirect economic benefits) consisting of horse sales, boarding, feeding, shoeing/trim, trucks, trailers, veterinarians and insurance would be devastated.


Schiff decries proposal for high-speed rail tunnel below Angeles National Forest
Congressman calls route underneath Angeles National Forest ‘implausible.’

From the Glendale News-Press By Arin Mikailian January 15, 2015 | 6:26 p.m.

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) is speaking out against the proposed idea of having high-speed rail tracks run through underground tunnels beneath the Angeles National Forest to connect Palmdale and Burbank and calls the alternative a costly dead-end.

California’s High-Speed Rail Authority plans to study having a section of the rail pass through the southwestern part of the forest…READ ENTIRE STORY

This economic loss does not include the permanent property value and other non-equestrian-related sales tax loss that the State and local government agencies would lose due to HSR’s use of eminent domain and devaluation of “survivor” properties.

We have projected the severe damage created by HSR’s East Corridor proposal, however preliminary or conceptual HSR intended, in its construction and operational phases. This comprehensive analysis, similar to but far less costly than an EIR/EIS, should lead you to eliminate the East Corridor alternatives immediately from further consideration.

We also believe HSR has a fiduciary responsibility to the State and its taxpayers to operate efficiently per the legislation. Already, the introduction and study of far-fetched and flawed alternatives such as E1, E2 and E3 represents a waste of time and taxpayer monies. Including these infeasible alternatives in the EIR/EIS will compound the wastefulness as well as raise serious legal issues related to NEPA and CEQA.

We have organized our analysis so that the most heavily impacted communities/open space areas are discussed:
· Shadow Hills/La Tuna Canyon/Sun Valley
· Lake View Terrace
· Kagel Canyon
· Big Tujunga Wash/Hansen Dam Recreation Area
· San Gabriel Mountains National Monument and Angeles National Forest


• Bullet Train Tunnels and Lines Dug/Located Under, Over and Through Our Communities

• Eminent Domain – Your House Could be Taken from You at a Financial Loss

• Property Values and Your Home’s Equity (Your Life’s Savings!) Devastated

• 60+ Foot Wide Tunnel Openings, Speeding Train and Elevated Bridge Visible/Audible for Miles

• Horses, Wildlife and Public Safety Seriously Endangered

• Serious Health Issues Due to Dust, Truck Emissions, Noise and Vibration

• Equestrian and Recreation Trails Closed and Destroyed; Equestrian Industry and Lifestyle Decimated

• Constant Noise and Visual Blight for Hundreds of Thousands of Residents and Motorists Daily

• Water Pollution Created; Water Supply Threatened

• 1 Million Plus Truck Trips to Remove Tunnel Dirt Damages Roads, Pollutes Air, Closes Roads, Jams Traffic

• National Monument, National Forest, Rim of the Valley and Wildlife Corridors Violated

• False, Misleading Claims by HSR re: Costs, Jobs, Economic Benefits & Ridership Projections

“Legislation requires high speed rail to be built in existing transportation and utility corridors.”

“Our elected officials should move away from the presumption that high speed rail will happen at any cost and move more toward demanding it be done right and cost-effectively…or not done at all.”

We invite you to join us in stopping the HSR.
Please explore our website, download our papers, and let your voice be heard!